Calling 2020 for Entropy

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Pham Nuwen wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 11:53
Warren wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 11:35
Pham Nuwen wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 11:27
Kolohe wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 09:44
Eric the .5b wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 13:41
Eric the .5b wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 04:54Also, Hunter Biden supposedly made money on real estate deals. Can't have a guy like that for president.
thoreau wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 12:22 Oh, but if making money off real estate is disqualifying then Trump will be fine.
Do I need to post the gif of Rainier Wolfcastle doing standup?
I think you need to post a picture that indicated that what you wrote was indeed the punchline of the joke. I dunno maybe something Simpsons tv show?
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Warren wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 12:31
How about: Loser posts whatever Winner wants as their sig (and no weasel links!) for six months.
Do we have bet?

*I'm looking at you Shem
We have a bet.
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Warren wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 12:31
Number 6 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 11:52
Warren wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 23:35
Number 6 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 21:26
Warren wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 19:26
Number 6 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 17:35

Trump will be the one taking the oath on the 20th. Nothing is changing that outcome. Though I do agree he’ll probably lose the popular vote.
Care to make a little wager?


Speaking of wagers, I still owe Eric 5 bucks.
What do you have in mind?
Hey, you know. I'm a more libertarian than thou hard money guy. Gold and BitCoin is the way I roll. But if that's too real for you, you call the stakes. USD, sig space, sexual favors, whatever. I'm down to clown.
I think sig space might work. Something along the lines of a big banner quoting one's own incorrect prediction?
How about: Loser posts whatever Winner wants as their sig (and no weasel links!) for six months.
Do we have bet?

*I'm looking at you Shem
What are you talking about? I put up exactly what you mandated.
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Shem wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:48
Warren wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 12:31
Number 6 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 11:52
Warren wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 23:35
Number 6 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 21:26
Warren wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 19:26

Care to make a little wager?


Speaking of wagers, I still owe Eric 5 bucks.
What do you have in mind?
Hey, you know. I'm a more libertarian than thou hard money guy. Gold and BitCoin is the way I roll. But if that's too real for you, you call the stakes. USD, sig space, sexual favors, whatever. I'm down to clown.
I think sig space might work. Something along the lines of a big banner quoting one's own incorrect prediction?
How about: Loser posts whatever Winner wants as their sig (and no weasel links!) for six months.
Do we have bet?

*I'm looking at you Shem
What are you talking about? I put up exactly what you mandated.
Are you sure? I remember the period at the end linking back to where we made the bet.
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Warren wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:55
Shem wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:48
Warren wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 12:31
Number 6 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 11:52
Warren wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 23:35
Number 6 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 21:26
What do you have in mind?
Hey, you know. I'm a more libertarian than thou hard money guy. Gold and BitCoin is the way I roll. But if that's too real for you, you call the stakes. USD, sig space, sexual favors, whatever. I'm down to clown.
I think sig space might work. Something along the lines of a big banner quoting one's own incorrect prediction?
How about: Loser posts whatever Winner wants as their sig (and no weasel links!) for six months.
Do we have bet?

*I'm looking at you Shem
What are you talking about? I put up exactly what you mandated.
Are you sure? I remember the period at the end linking back to where we made the bet.
I put up exactly what you mandated. At no point did you state that this was the only thing that could be in the sig. Another word for "technicality" is "100% accurate statement."
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I want to bet, I want to bet! But I don't know who I think is going to win. Can I bet on something else?
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Ellie wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 17:06 I want to bet, I want to bet! But I don't know who I think is going to win. Can I bet on something else?
Of course you can. But you remember what happened the last time you bet right?
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Exactly! And now I want more! DOUBLE OR NOTHING! DOUBLE OR NOTHING!
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Chase and Sanborn?
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Kolohe wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 09:44
Eric the .5b wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 13:41
Eric the .5b wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 04:54Also, Hunter Biden supposedly made money on real estate deals. Can't have a guy like that for president.
thoreau wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 12:22 Oh, but if making money off real estate is disqualifying then Trump will be fine.
Do I need to post the gif of Rainier Wolfcastle doing standup?
I think you need to post a picture that indicated that what you wrote was indeed the punchline of the joke. I dunno maybe something Simpsons tv show?
Or maybe Warren looking annoyed.
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Pham Nuwen wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 22:35 Chase and Sanborn?
But is getting Chase and Sanborned the punishment if I lose or the prize if I win? :mrgreen:
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Play your cards right and you can have it both ways.*

*that's what she said
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I’ve found myself having to explain my Biden vote given how much I dislike Bernie.

I’ve decided my political preference hierarchy in 2020 is something like this:

Moderate Libertarian > Right Neoliberal > Left Neoliberal >> Full Libertarian > Right Populist = Left Populist

All realists better than all utopians, with a sub sorting of libertarian preferred over right preferred over left. I could be persuaded based on policy to flop stuff in the middle but probably not the ends.

For clarity, Biden is left neoliberal, Bernie is left populist and Trump is right populist.
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Who are you having to explain this to? Bernie vs Biden vs Trump seems like a fairly obvious distinction.
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There is a strong intuition among people I know that Biden is quasi Bernie but everyone voting for Biden had Bernie in their hearts. So, a preference for Biden over Trump but having Bernie maybe at the bottom of all lists seems to require explanation.
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This was actually me in the booth.
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JasonL wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 12:34 There is a strong intuition among people I know that Biden is quasi Bernie but everyone voting for Biden had Bernie in their hearts. So, a preference for Biden over Trump but having Bernie maybe at the bottom of all lists seems to require explanation.
Weird. Are these people Trumpsters?
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Hugh Akston wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 12:50
JasonL wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 12:34 There is a strong intuition among people I know that Biden is quasi Bernie but everyone voting for Biden had Bernie in their hearts. So, a preference for Biden over Trump but having Bernie maybe at the bottom of all lists seems to require explanation.
Weird. Are these people Trumpsters?
The ones I've seen with this kind of thinking are totally in the bag for Bernie. Mostly Extremely Online people who can't believe that there are millions and millions of centrist Dems out there that aren't really caring about the flaccid communist claptrap that the online people are spouting, about everyone needing to be in a labor union, about Labor Theory of Value, about Medicare 4 All, about UBI. These people look at Biden from the Left and see that he just doesn't measure up, so why should we vote for that, it's almost no different from Trump.

Meanwhile, most of the people in suburbia are like "yeah, we're not that sure about Bernie and those ideas, why don't you all step back and think about them for a while.
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It's a lot of Bernie people, but also Trumpkins who suggest that Biden is a marxist vote. They can't sort categories without reds all on one end and blues all on the other.
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JasonL wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 12:34 There is a strong intuition among people I know that Biden is quasi Bernie but everyone voting for Biden had Bernie in their hearts. So, a preference for Biden over Trump but having Bernie maybe at the bottom of all lists seems to require explanation.
I'm sure many of those voting for Biden have somewhere in the back of their minds the prospect of Biden being a bridge to their socialist paradise, so it stands to reason many of those who consider that the worst of all possible worlds view all Biden votes as accordingly suspicious.

Using Facebook as a measure of the people I know and consider friends outside social media, I've lost contact with (read: been shunned by) a few hard right and hard left former friends either because I failed some political litmus test or finally got on their nerves too often. Most of my leftist friends are invincibly ignorant about economics, but their hearts are generally in the right place on enough non-economic positions that we have some common ground still even if they are slowly being sucked into the vortex of social justice wokism. Under Trump, by contrast, the institutional right has abandoned economic conservatism and limited government to the point where the only thing I have left in common with the social conservatives I know is a preference for British tailoring.

None of the Republican elite wanted Trump; they wanted to defeat Clinton and once Trump got the nomination they were stuck with him. That much I could forgive. That they one by one got sucked into the Cult of Personality is the part I can't forgive. Any Republican who has enthusiastically supported Trump in public, no matter how little he believed what he was saying, needs to be run out of town on a rail. They will all suddenly become economic conservatives again (except on military spending) as soon as they're out of power, but it's way too late in the day to take them at all seriously. They got their judges and at least for now their tax and regulatory breaks, so they should just go home and STFU for a while.

Short version: one can still favor sane conservatism while concluding that the current Republican Party needs serious purging. That's more than adequate justification for my voting for Democrats this time around.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 13:44None of the Republican elite wanted Trump; they wanted to defeat Clinton and once Trump got the nomination they were stuck with him. That much I could forgive. That they one by one got sucked into the Cult of Personality is the part I can't forgive.
The GOP has spent several decades courting the vulgar, in multiple senses of the term. Eventually they got high on their own supply. As late as 2016 they might have considered themselves to just be playing a game, but you spend long enough pandering to the dumb and crazy and eventually it scars you.

I see similar things in education. Smart people tell themselves that they're only dumbing it down for the masses, that they know what they're doing isn't right. To their credit, they usually make sure they give their kids better than what they give their students. But you spend enough time dumbing it down and certain reflexes get dull. Eventually they get high on their own supply.

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thoreau wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 13:57 Wear the mask long enough and you become the mask. And once they become that mask, they have to be judged as such, and purged as such.
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I wonder how many Republicans we're going to have in the next few years saying "I only fucked that goat to get re-elected".
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What I wonder about on that poll are the people who are likely voters who say they don't know if they can vote. I just picture someone saying "well, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to vote, but potentially committing federal felonies is my fetish, and roleplaying with people online just isn't scratching the itch anymore, so..."
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