Orange is the new President

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Team Jadagul. Also, a fake illness is a story that would fall apart very quickly.

Is this the 'October Surprise?'
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Highway wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 12:32 It's very hard for me to think that this isn't just a cynical fake on the part of Trump. That he doesn't really have Covid, and is just using it for sympathy and cover. Trying to get people to rally to the leader, gives him cover to not go out in public without people thinking he's 'weak' or 'scared', and in a week or two he can pop back up, having "recovered" and say "See, it's not so bad. Everyone's making too big of a deal about it."

The timing's just too convenient, when he's flailing more than ever, yet still having enough time to 'recover' and then try to capitalize on that 'recovery' before the election.

ETA: And after he "recovers" he'll blab about now he doesn't have to wear a mask because he's immune.
This is my feeling too. I think he has a cold (long days on the campaign, etc.) AND Hope Hicks has Covid, and it was a good strategy for him. There are too many people who are constantly in close contact with Trump who are testing negative. He doesn't have Corona. He's going to take exactly the strategy you outlined.
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Kolohe wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 09:35
He is in several high-risk groups — elderly, obese, low-income.
I legit guffawed.
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A White House doctor released a letter saying he tested positive. It's one thing to go on TV and lie about someone's weight to avoid embarrassing him. But to lie in writing about a lab result? That's a more serious thing.

Also, the last thing Trump wants is to be banned from rallies. Though I would love nothing more than for him to spend lots of time up close and personal with the sorts of people who support him. (Yes, I'm evil.)
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Highway wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 13:01
Jadagul wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 12:53 Nah.

Psychologically, I find it moderately convincing that Trump isn't the sort of person who would feign _weakness_.

But more convincingly, there are enough reports of other people in his cluster being infected that this seems really unlikely. I don't believe Mike Lee is faking his positive test.
This is the thing that's going to bring me around to it being not a cynical ploy: That there are starting to be too many people who have interacted with the White House, who aren't going to be in on some ridiculous conspiracy, who test positive and show it's really a nexus.
Right after posting this, I went to Twitter and read that the Notre Dame president, who'd been at an event relating to the Barrett nomination a few days ago, tested positive.

Apparently a bunch of Republican Senators are asking McConnell to shut the senate down for a couple weeks so they don't all get sick.
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Jadagul wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 13:25 Apparently a bunch of Republican Senators are asking McConnell to shut the senate down for a couple weeks so they don't all get sick.
I mean, is it possible for him to shut it down more than it sounds like he has been, lately? Double secret shutdown?
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From gryll alum Timothy
COVID out here putting the sick in sic semper tyrannis.
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The conspiretardation has begun:


Does anyone else find it odd that no prominent Democrats have had the virus but the list of Republicans goes on and on?
Now all we need are the false-equivalence brigades to start bleating that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans when it comes to handling pandemics (or would be just as bad if the opportunity presented itself), and there is no legitimate reason for any neutral political observer to say today's GOP is in any way or shape worse than the Democrats (except Hillary Clinton, who is, was and always shall be worse than anything), and this week will be complete.

Still a couple hours left before business hours end on the east coast.
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Aresen wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 13:02 Team Jadagul. Also, a fake illness is a story that would fall apart very quickly.
I present as evidence Trump turning down throwing out the first pitch at a Yankees game. That's just the one that comes to mind. He's obese, has heart/blood pressure issues(supposedly), and is old. Those are pretty big co-morbidities for people that display symptoms.
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Given Trump's age, diet and exercise habits (or complete lack thereof), it would be a medical miracle if he didn't have heart and blood-pressure issues.

My outta-the-ass guess is that if Pence were to also catch it, his chances of survival would be higher than Trump's for all these reasons ... but I'm still curious: what would happen if they both got it AND both died? Given the timing, if they both had it today it's not implausible that they'd both die only a day or two before election day. There's never been anything remotely like that in American history before; I wonder what would happen then, in regard to the election and whoever the GOP would run?
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I'm pretty sure White House physicians have been lying about Trump's physical condition since he took office. Besides, who's going to ever be in a position to disprove the claim? Worst case scenario for Trump in that case would be "Hey, what do you know about that? A false positive!"
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It's almost as if one batch of dipshits have raised flouting medical guidelines while decrying science as a pillar of lies and the other have heeded scientific advice and taken sensible precautions.

Go motherfucking figure.
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Jennifer wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 14:43 The conspiretardation has begun:


Does anyone else find it odd that no prominent Democrats have had the virus but the list of Republicans goes on and on?
Now all we need are the false-equivalence brigades to start bleating that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans when it comes to handling pandemics (or would be just as bad if the opportunity presented itself), and there is no legitimate reason for any neutral political observer to say today's GOP is in any way or shape worse than the Democrats (except Hillary Clinton, who is, was and always shall be worse than anything), and this week will be complete.

Still a couple hours left before business hours end on the east coast.
To answer the twit post: Republicans have generally been more dismissive of the virus and more opposed to the recommended precautions. So, no I don't find it odd at all.
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Aresen wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 15:15
Jennifer wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 14:43 The conspiretardation has begun:


Does anyone else find it odd that no prominent Democrats have had the virus but the list of Republicans goes on and on?
Now all we need are the false-equivalence brigades to start bleating that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans when it comes to handling pandemics (or would be just as bad if the opportunity presented itself), and there is no legitimate reason for any neutral political observer to say today's GOP is in any way or shape worse than the Democrats (except Hillary Clinton, who is, was and always shall be worse than anything), and this week will be complete.

Still a couple hours left before business hours end on the east coast.
To answer the twit post: Republicans have generally been more dismissive of the virus and more opposed to the recommended precautions. So, no I don't find it odd at all.
Of course. And FWIW there are already scads of tweeted responses along that line. But there's no point in pointing this out to the conspiretards: they've made up their minds on who's right and who's wrong, and their thoughts will twist as much as necessary to maintain this. You may as well try convincing a young-earth creationist that Darwin was right after all.
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A HA HA HA

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... 2lquCT3XLc

Utah Sen. MIke Lee has covid; news comes after he met with court nominee Barrett.
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Sadly I remain old enough to remember that xenophobia is the real virus and only superstitious racists would do something like stop shaking hands or wear a mask.
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[sings]

Burn baby burn!
[Covid inferno]
Burn baby burn!
[Through the GOP ranks]

[/sings]

ETA: repeated attempts to post a video of "Disco Inferno" failed. Quel dommage.
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Ha ha ha. Today Marine One flies to the White House lawn to airlift Trump to the hospital.

Three days ago, the White House lawn was where a no-mask, no-social=distancing party for SCOTUS nom Barrett took place. A ha ha ha.

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Lotta people are tweeting about Chekov's Gun today
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And Diamond Joe tested negative. Takes more than a little RNA to sideline the campaign motorcycle.
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This goes way beyond Chekhov's gun. This is Chekhov''s unlicensed underground gun show, held in an abandoned building which just caught on fire, and the ammunition's starting to go off.
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Chekhov's 1812 Overture, and we just hit the cannonade.
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Jennifer wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 18:24 This goes way beyond Chekhov's gun. This is Chekhov''s unlicensed underground gun show, held in an abandoned building which just caught on fire, and the ammunition's starting to go off.
????

I am baffled why a literary maxim applies in this situation.
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Aresen wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 18:41
Jennifer wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 18:24 This goes way beyond Chekhov's gun. This is Chekhov''s unlicensed underground gun show, held in an abandoned building which just caught on fire, and the ammunition's starting to go off.
????

I am baffled why a literary maxim applies in this situation.
Trump basically set this up (left the gun on the mantle) by bungling the federal response to covid, and by personally ignoring/denouncing medical expertise regarding personal protection. Now it's the third act and the gun has been fired. Unfortunately it probably won't prove to be fatal because Trump is the mother lovin' pigeon of Mary-Sues.
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