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For random observations specifically related to "daily life during a history-making pandemic."

You know how we're all seeing many comments and articles these days along the lines of "Whoa, you don't realize how many times you touch your face in a day until you're told 'Don't do this or you'll die" (or, "Until you go out wearing gloves that won't LET you touch your face")? On a similar note, I never realized how often even a homebound introvert like me engaged in small-scale socialization with people, until I can't: before this pandemic, even during a "hermit week" where I'd spend seven consecutive days NOT attending ANY social or quasi-social events -- no meetups, no "after dark" events at the museum, and certainly no actual "Go to a friend's abode or have one over to mine for socialization purposes" -- I'd still do plenty of things like "chatting with the neighbors on my way to or from my car" or "with the person next to me in line at the store." And, especially those times I'd wear my hair loose rather than in a "beaver tail," a LOT of very young children would start conversations with me (usually in contexts like "I'm in line at a thrift store and, apropos of nothing, the little kid in front of me starts telling me all about the cool toy she'd found"). And usually Jeff and I would go out to a restaurant an average of once a week, which at minimum required chatting with the wait staff.

But now -- for all the online communication I've had with sundry people -- the only other person I have actually TALKED to since Saturday (my last visit to a grocery store) is Jeff. Had this struck in the days when I was single and living alone, I would not have uttered a single syllable to ANYBODY, for four days now.
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And, of course, now that I can't, I want to do ultra-extroverted social butterfly things of this sort which even 20-something me could tolerate only in VERY small doses: forget reading this multivolume saga I've been looking forward to; let's all grab some glow sticks and wave 'em around at a 5,000-person rave party! Or dress all in black and wear dramatic makeup and attend a dimly lit 5,000-person goth music festival.
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All of the bulk food sections in our local supermarkets have been shut down.

I think "No problem, I'll just get a package of popcorn for snacking."

Nope. Sold out. :(
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"Shut down?" By that do you mean, "they were sold out when you got there" or "they actually shut it down and intend no more bulk-food sales during the duration?"
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Jennifer wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 13:33 "Shut down?" By that do you mean, "they were sold out when you got there" or "they actually shut it down and intend no more bulk-food sales during the duration?"
The bulk foods sections are covered with plastic sheets and wrapped up in tape. No more bulk food sales for the duration.

Which is hell for my chocolate addiction.
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Shit. THAT sucks. Too bad they couldn't at least offer a compromise a la "Bulk sales allowed, but not more than one per customer" -- you, Aresen, can buy ONE bulk box of the chocolate you like, but only one at a time.

Sudden thought: maybe the problem is from the supply side -- i.e., the chocolate manufacturer has stopped producing bulk packs for now?
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That's not what he means with bulk food. He means the open bins of beans or flour or mini chocolate bars that you buy by the pound.
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Highway wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 14:35 That's not what he means with bulk food. He means the open bins of beans or flour or mini chocolate bars that you buy by the pound.
This.

I like Rosebuds® and Smarties® (the Canadian brands, not the candies of the same name you know in the US), both of which are far cheaper in bulk.
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I received an email from local Kroger letting me know that the store is no longer allowing in-store shopping. Yeah, online shopping only at that location.
Because this store won’t be offering in-store shopping, we’ll be 100% focused on fulfilling your order with more convenient time slots, and free pickup of course.
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Oh, THAT kind of bulk food. Well, I must admit that makes sense, in light of current concerns.

Come to think of it, I'm kind of surprised non-packaged fresh produce is still being sold as a thing. Or maybe it isn't -- I haven't been to a grocery store since Saturday, and a LOT can change in three days.

Twba -- whereabouts do you live? I'm in north Georgia, and Kroger is my usual food source too.
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I suspect that switching to packaged produce would cause some behind-the-scenes headaches. Maybe I'm wrong, but overhauling operations and changing the way a large part of your merchandise is sold never seems to be easy.

And it's not like Americans need even fewer opportunities to eat fruits and vegetables, especially when we're supposed to take care of our immune systems.

tl;dr Even now, I can't imagine any doctor saying "Fuck it, no more veggies, America."
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Non-packaged produce is probably as safe or safer than packaged. You should be thoroughly washing all of it anyway before use, and then most stuff gets peeled. And then lots of the time it gets cooked. I definitely don't begrudge the buying of preprocessed and packaged produce tho, lots of people depend on it.
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I live minutes from multiple Kroger locations, only one location is mentioned in the email.
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Besides, my understanding is that there's no documented case of viruses in this family being transmitted via food. They're adapted to survive in the lungs (a very different environment than the stomach) and are mostly transmitted via inhaling droplets that an infected person exhaled. Once a viral particle adheres to a food surface, it's almost certainly going into the esophagus, not the trachea. And even before they go into their mouth, if the viral particles are on food that goes into some sort of prepared dish, there's a good chance of contact with lipids (which will dissolve their coating).

Honestly, I'm not even sure how much hand-washing matters for something that's mostly inhaled. Even if you lick dirty fingers, that saliva will then go mostly into the stomach. WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULDN'T WASH YOUR HANDS RIGHT NOW. Besides the fact that it's better to not find out the hard way, getting infected by the sorts of germs that easily spread by dirty hands is just going to mean one more person hogging space in a crowded clinic or hospital, and anything that weakens your immunity just makes you more susceptible to COVID-19.
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thoreau wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 15:27 Even if you lick dirty fingers, that saliva will then go mostly into the stomach.
Lot o' mucus membranes between the tongue and the stomach
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thoreau wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 15:27 Besides, my understanding is that there's no documented case of viruses in this family being transmitted via food. They're adapted to survive in the lungs (a very different environment than the stomach) and are mostly transmitted via inhaling droplets that an infected person exhaled. Once a viral particle adheres to a food surface, it's almost certainly going into the esophagus, not the trachea. And even before they go into their mouth, if the viral particles are on food that goes into some sort of prepared dish, there's a good chance of contact with lipids (which will dissolve their coating).

Honestly, I'm not even sure how much hand-washing matters for something that's mostly inhaled. Even if you lick dirty fingers, that saliva will then go mostly into the stomach. WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULDN'T WASH YOUR HANDS RIGHT NOW. Besides the fact that it's better to not find out the hard way, getting infected by the sorts of germs that easily spread by dirty hands is just going to mean one more person hogging space in a crowded clinic or hospital, and anything that weakens your immunity just makes you more susceptible to COVID-19.
I am not an expert. My wife is a pharmacist and I work in 2 different hospitals with lots of nurses. I am not an expert.

Yeah pretty much. At least as far as I have read/heard talk on covid. There's a lot of talk about people touching a surface then their nose as why precautions seem to keep getting circumvented.
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Pham Nuwen wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 19:34 Yeah pretty much. At least as far as I have read/heard talk on covid. There's a lot of talk about people touching a surface then their nose as why precautions seem to keep getting circumvented.
Good point.

People, don't pick your nose without washing your hands first. Stay safe.
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A lot of people pinch their nose to avoid picking their nose. Shrug.
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I don't think my face has ever itched more than when we were told to stop touching our faces.
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You just noticed it more is all. We're just jumped up monkeys after all.
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Pham Nuwen wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 23:11 You just noticed it more is all. We're just jumped up monkeys after all.
Apes.

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Aresen wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 23:16
Pham Nuwen wrote: 25 Mar 2020, 23:11 You just noticed it more is all. We're just jumped up monkeys after all.
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I AM NOT A MONKEY!!! I AM A MAN!!!!
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We ain't nothing but mammals.
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I don't want to do it with you like they do it on the discovery channel, Thoreau. Nothing personal.
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