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If it means we get to live in a world where Schwarzenegger plays King Lear then I’m in.
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I would get more lulz from a brontosaurus rampaging across the lawns in Rand Paul's neighborhood. Dude should never live that down.
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The piece of shit keeps trying to get Chief Justice Roberts to say the whistleblower's name.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/2 ... ons-109292

I am very much on the side of his neighbor with strong opinions about lawncare.
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According to Dersh, his neighbor should not have been prosecuted because attacking Rand was in the national interest
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Senator Rand Paul has tested positive for COVID-19. He is feeling fine and is in quarantine. He is asymptomatic and was tested out of an abundance of caution due to his extensive travel and events. He was not aware of any direct contact with any infected person.
(Just putting this here b/c this is the Rand Paul thread, not making a statement on this report)
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Given how much time he spends sucking Trump's dick, I can only assume that Trump now has genital COVID-19.
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I wonder how Ron Paul feels, now that his son has tested positive for a hoax?
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The man who infected the Senate gym is no longer contagious and is now volunteering at a hospital. I'm sure this will work out well.



I wonder if there are any other anesthesiologists with strong opinions about lawncare.
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Guys! He showed up at my door with flowers singing about the consequences of fiscal irresponsibility 💕
I... I don't know what to do.
I know hes done this before. But I really think 💕he means it💕 this time.
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his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod

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And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
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JD wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:28 And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
Paul, a physician...
Paul, an opthamologist, not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist of any kind...
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lunchstealer wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:49
JD wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:28 And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
Paul, a physician...
Paul, an opthamologist, not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist of any kind...
Though at the end of an impeachment vote, they do say ‘The Eyes Have It’.
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Kolohe wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 15:53
lunchstealer wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:49
JD wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:28 And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
Paul, a physician...
Paul, an opthamologist, not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist of any kind...
Though at the end of an impeachment vote, they do say ‘The Eyes Have It’.
Unless they're impeaching a horse in which case ... nah, never mind.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 20:09
Kolohe wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 15:53
lunchstealer wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:49
JD wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:28 And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
Paul, a physician...
Paul, an opthamologist, not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist of any kind...
Though at the end of an impeachment vote, they do say ‘The Eyes Have It’.
Unless they're impeaching a horse in which case ... nah, never mind.
Well, they tried to impeach a horse's ass, but ... you know where this is going.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 20:09
Kolohe wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 15:53
lunchstealer wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:49
JD wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:28 And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
Paul, a physician...
Paul, an opthamologist, not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist of any kind...
Though at the end of an impeachment vote, they do say ‘The Eyes Have It’.
Unless they're impeaching a horse in which case ... nah, never mind.
Of course, of course.
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Number 6 wrote: 24 Jul 2020, 11:55
D.A. Ridgely wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 20:09
Kolohe wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 15:53
lunchstealer wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:49
JD wrote: 23 Jul 2020, 13:28 And now Rand Paul has called for NY Governor Cuomo's impeachment. Apparently nothing Trump has done is worthy of impeachment, but Cuomo's decisions - flawed as they may have been - are.
Paul, a physician...
Paul, an opthamologist, not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist of any kind...
Though at the end of an impeachment vote, they do say ‘The Eyes Have It’.
Unless they're impeaching a horse in which case ... nah, never mind.
Of course, of course.
I endorse this answer.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 23 Sep 2020, 17:33
Uh...I don't think Paul is alone in that. There is a lot of gathering evidence that for COVID 19 that level may be all you need to get it under control because of the way it spreads. It's not anywhere near as contagious as measles. So it doesn't require as high a population percentage to effectively knee cap the spread.
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How low of an infection rate confers herd immunity will depend, in part, on what sorts of activities are spreading it and whether the highest-risk activities are allowed. There's evidence suggesting that merely exhaling without a mask is less dangerous than singing or shouting without a mask. So 22% might be fine if we have no church choirs, no concerts, no people cheering while watching a baseball game in a loud bar, no family gatherings of animated people shouting in Italian, etc. Quietly strolling around a grocery store or browsing a library without a mask might already be pretty safe. Even sitting in a subway car breathing normally while browsing your phone may be safer than people think/fear.

But if we want to re-open to gatherings with loud talking, singing, cheering, etc. then we might need more people already infected and recovered before we can be confident that we won't get new outbreaks.
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thoreau wrote: 23 Sep 2020, 18:22 How low of an infection rate confers herd immunity will depend, in part, on what sorts of activities are spreading it and whether the highest-risk activities are allowed. There's evidence suggesting that merely exhaling without a mask is less dangerous than singing or shouting without a mask. So 22% might be fine if we have no church choirs, no concerts, no people cheering while watching a baseball game in a loud bar, no family gatherings of animated people shouting in Italian, etc. Quietly strolling around a grocery store or browsing a library without a mask might already be pretty safe. Even sitting in a subway car breathing normally while browsing your phone may be safer than people think/fear.

But if we want to re-open to gatherings with loud talking, singing, cheering, etc. then we might need more people already infected and recovered before we can be confident that we won't get new outbreaks.
Agreed but there are number of places that have taken no measures (no masks, no nothing), experienced an intense spike in cases, and often deaths, and then after a few weeks just as suddenly dropped to a very few cases a day. If the virus were more virulent then it should continue to spread and the cases shouldn't fall off so quickly. More and more it seems Sweden may have had the right idea. Their mistake was not doing a better job "firewalling" the old and infirm which led to a higher death rate.

A lot has been made about the "second wave" in the US but it seems more likely it really was just a first wave for a different region. One of the reasons that looking at statistics simply by country may not give an accurate picture. Now if say New York gets hit again with a big wave of cases again then that would likely indicate you would need higher percentage of the population to effect herd immunity. But if there isn't then we might be able to conclude that the herd immunity threshold is at a fairly low level. That would be a very good thing for everyone.
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Or masks and avoiding large gatherings. But herd immunity. Sure.
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With public health responses around the world predicated on the assumption that the virus entered the human population with no pre-existing immunity before the pandemic,4 serosurvey data are leading many to conclude that the virus has, as Mike Ryan, WHO’s head of emergencies, put it, “a long way to burn.”

Yet a stream of studies that have documented SARS-CoV-2 reactive T cells in people without exposure to the virus are raising questions about just how new the pandemic virus really is, with many implications.

Not so novel coronavirus?
At least six studies have reported T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in 20% to 50% of people with no known exposure to the virus.5678910

In a study of donor blood specimens obtained in the US between 2015 and 2018, 50% displayed various forms of T cell reactivity to SARS-CoV-2.511 A similar study that used specimens from the Netherlands reported T cell reactivity in two of 10 people who had not been exposed to the virus.7

In Germany reactive T cells were detected in a third of SARS-CoV-2 seronegative healthy donors (23 of 68). In Singapore a team analysed specimens taken from people with no contact or personal history of SARS or covid-19; 12 of 26 specimens taken before July 2019 showed reactivity to SARS-CoV-2, as did seven of 11 from people who were seronegative against the virus.8 Reactivity was also discovered in the UK and Sweden.6910

Though these studies are small and do not yet provide precise estimates of pre-existing immunological responses to SARS-CoV-2, they are hard to dismiss, with several being published in Cell and Nature. Alessandro Sette, an immunologist from La Jolla Institute for Immunology in California and an author of several of the studies (box 1), told The BMJ, “At this point there are a number of studies that are seeing this reactivity in different continents, different labs. As a scientist you know that is a hallmark of something that has a very strong footing.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
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nicole wrote: 24 Sep 2020, 11:53
Though these studies are small and do not yet provide precise estimates of pre-existing immunological responses to SARS-CoV-2, they are hard to dismiss
It's not that hard. If you yell 'shut up and wear a mask' loud enough you can't even hear people talking about the complexities of immunity.
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nicole wrote: 24 Sep 2020, 11:53
With public health responses around the world predicated on the assumption that the virus entered the human population with no pre-existing immunity before the pandemic,4 serosurvey data are leading many to conclude that the virus has, as Mike Ryan, WHO’s head of emergencies, put it, “a long way to burn.”

Yet a stream of studies that have documented SARS-CoV-2 reactive T cells in people without exposure to the virus are raising questions about just how new the pandemic virus really is, with many implications.

Not so novel coronavirus?
At least six studies have reported T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in 20% to 50% of people with no known exposure to the virus.5678910

In a study of donor blood specimens obtained in the US between 2015 and 2018, 50% displayed various forms of T cell reactivity to SARS-CoV-2.511 A similar study that used specimens from the Netherlands reported T cell reactivity in two of 10 people who had not been exposed to the virus.7

In Germany reactive T cells were detected in a third of SARS-CoV-2 seronegative healthy donors (23 of 68). In Singapore a team analysed specimens taken from people with no contact or personal history of SARS or covid-19; 12 of 26 specimens taken before July 2019 showed reactivity to SARS-CoV-2, as did seven of 11 from people who were seronegative against the virus.8 Reactivity was also discovered in the UK and Sweden.6910

Though these studies are small and do not yet provide precise estimates of pre-existing immunological responses to SARS-CoV-2, they are hard to dismiss, with several being published in Cell and Nature. Alessandro Sette, an immunologist from La Jolla Institute for Immunology in California and an author of several of the studies (box 1), told The BMJ, “At this point there are a number of studies that are seeing this reactivity in different continents, different labs. As a scientist you know that is a hallmark of something that has a very strong footing.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
That's a great article. Thanks for posting.
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