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dead_elvis wrote: 06 Oct 2020, 17:04 Air guitarists hardest hit.

Fuckin' A. Happy Trails, you made junior high rock*.

*within the overall context of junior high sucking donkey balls, of course
Added some rocking to offset the suck of junior high.

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VanHalen was never all that high in my personal rock pantheon, but there was no denying that Eddie was an incredible musician, and among the best rock guitar players ever. (Surpassed only by Stevie Ray Vaughn and Hendrix, IMHO).
It’s a shame that the speed of churn in popular music is such that he was all but forgotten by anyone under 35 or so.
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I was never a huge Van Halen fan but I did like listening to some of his stuff, and of course I'd be a fool not to recognize the huge impact that he had on rock guitar. The funny thing is that some of his music doesn't sound all that revolutionary or unusual now...but that's precisely because he made it a standard.
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JD wrote: 06 Oct 2020, 18:14 I was never a huge Van Halen fan but I did like listening to some of his stuff, and of course I'd be a fool not to recognize the huge impact that he had on rock guitar. The funny thing is that some of his music doesn't sound all that revolutionary or unusual now...but that's precisely because he made it a standard.
That's true of Hendrix, too. For that matter, what was original and revolutionary in, say, Louis Armstrong or Charlie Parker's playing is well trod ground by now.

I of course admired Van Halen's virtuosity, but I never much cared for the music. With Hendrix or Stevie Ray the emotion of the music was rarely lost on me even as I marveled at the sound; with Van Halen it just seemed like showing off to me. *shrug*
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 06 Oct 2020, 18:46
JD wrote: 06 Oct 2020, 18:14 I was never a huge Van Halen fan but I did like listening to some of his stuff, and of course I'd be a fool not to recognize the huge impact that he had on rock guitar. The funny thing is that some of his music doesn't sound all that revolutionary or unusual now...but that's precisely because he made it a standard.
That's true of Hendrix, too. For that matter, what was original and revolutionary in, say, Louis Armstrong or Charlie Parker's playing is well trod ground by now.

I of course admired Van Halen's virtuosity, but I never much cared for the music. With Hendrix or Stevie Ray the emotion of the music was rarely lost on me even as I marveled at the sound; with Van Halen it just seemed like showing off to me. *shrug*
Very much this.
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Van Halen is what testosterone sounds like.
Living with a wanna be rock star for several years gave me insights to Eddie's playing I could not have appreciated on my own. That he experimented with unique tunings and found unique ways of exploiting them.
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nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
Pics or it didn't happen.
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nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
It's a trick!

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 17:19
nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
It's a trick!

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
That's amazing.
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nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
I'm actually really bummed by this. Gillette is 65 and there isn't any more prominent sceptics out there. Not household names at least.
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Kwix wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 07:18
nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
I'm actually really bummed by this. Gillette is 65 and there isn't any more prominent sceptics out there. Not household names at least.
It is a different time though. Randi was battling against the likes of Uri Geller, who was being mainstreamed by Johnny Carson, for instance.

The woo is definitely still around, but it’s a lot more subtle and harder to debunk.

(And one person’s woo is another’s religion, and it’s become sorta rude to debunk that)
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Kolohe wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 09:24
Kwix wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 07:18
nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
I'm actually really bummed by this. Gillette is 65 and there isn't any more prominent sceptics out there. Not household names at least.
It is a different time though. Randi was battling against the likes of Uri Geller, who was being mainstreamed by Johnny Carson, for instance.

The woo is definitely still around, but it’s a lot more subtle and harder to debunk.

(And one person’s woo is another’s religion, and it’s become sorta rude to debunk that)
I mean, that last part is why it's happening and also why it's concerning.
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Kolohe wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 09:24
Kwix wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 07:18
nicole wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 16:46James Randi
I'm actually really bummed by this. Gillette is 65 and there isn't any more prominent sceptics out there. Not household names at least.
It is a different time though. Randi was battling against the likes of Uri Geller, who was being mainstreamed by Johnny Carson, for instance.

The woo is definitely still around, but it’s a lot more subtle and harder to debunk.

(And one person’s woo is another’s religion, and it’s become sorta rude to debunk that)
Carson (a former magician) was a skeptic and humiliated Geller on his show.

I was never much of a fan of Randi. He struck me as a Rand type of figure, tearing down others to build a cult around himself.

I filed Gillette under "Never have heroes", the more I got to know him, the more he disappointed.

I like the current generation of skeptics that are more numerous and mainstream without Cult of Personality leaders.
nicole wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 10:14 I mean, that last part is why it's happening and also why it's concerning.
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Harris doesn't count as a cult of personality?
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dhex wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:34 Harris doesn't count as a cult of personality?
I'm sorry, who?
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dhex wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:34 Harris doesn't count as a cult of personality?
Are there rabid MAGAs-but-for-Harris? Bernie, AOC, maybe Warren, sure, but Harris didn't make it past SC for a reason.

EDIT wait wrong Harris, clearly, but I'm with Warren. Who?
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I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
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nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:09 I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
Because he's an asshole or because he's a scientismist?
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nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:09 I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
*googles, reads Wikipedia*

Huh. I don't know. He's made the right enemies (Deepak Chopra, Noam Chomsky, et al.) Meditation in and of itself is good exercise for the mind. But it's often part of a larger woo filled belief system. Much like stretching and yoga. The app he's selling is sus. But far be it from me to criticize someone for making money.

Maybe he's an asshole, I couldn't say. He's got books, an app, a podcast, he may very well be building a cult around himself. But it's a very small cult. He can't be said to be the spokesman for the skeptic community.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:10
nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:09 I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
Because he's an asshole or because he's a scientismist?
Because I don't think of him as primarily engaging in testing empirical claims.
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I'd pegged him to the post 9/11 skepticistic crew but never paid much attention because everything out of his mouth was stupid as fuck.

I'm not surprised he's gone all wellnessy. Natural leap.
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Thx.

After googling to make sure I had the right Sam in mind, looking at the top results on Image Search, he definitely wants to be a little cult-y if he can pull it off.
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