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nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 14:08
Hugh Akston wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:10
nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:09 I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
Because he's an asshole or because he's a scientismist?
Because I don't think of him as primarily engaging in testing empirical claims.
I mean he is technically a neuroscientist. But yeah he's not known for testing the empirical claims of woo believers. He's more of a talking sea otter than a skeptic.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 15:28
nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 14:08
Hugh Akston wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:10
nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:09 I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
Because he's an asshole or because he's a scientismist?
Because I don't think of him as primarily engaging in testing empirical claims.
I mean he is technically a neuroscientist. But yeah he's not known for testing the empirical claims of woo believers. He's more of a talking sea otter than a skeptic.
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lunchstealer wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 16:28
Hugh Akston wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 15:28
nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 14:08
Hugh Akston wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:10
nicole wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 13:09 I assumed Sam.

I don't really think of him as a "skeptic" fwiw.
Because he's an asshole or because he's a scientismist?
Because I don't think of him as primarily engaging in testing empirical claims.
I mean he is technically a neuroscientist. But yeah he's not known for testing the empirical claims of woo believers. He's more of a talking sea otter than a skeptic.
Chopra's an endocrinologist. Being smart isn't a failsafe cure for stupidity.
You think Chopra believes his own BS?
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I think Dawkins is more cult-of-personality, but Harris tries. He just doesn't go hard enough into the whole naked attention-seeking that Dawkins does, who appeals better to the sort of atheists who like to see themselves as brave freethinkers for not being religious... even if they live in the UK.

Both are more ideologically atheist and anti-religious than focused on skepticism.
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Eric the .5b wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 14:54 I think Dawkins is more cult-of-personality, but Harris tries. He just doesn't go hard enough into the whole naked attention-seeking that Dawkins does, who appeals better to the sort of atheists who like to see themselves as brave freethinkers for not being religious... even if they live in the UK.

Both are more ideologically atheist and anti-religious than focused on skepticism.
I like both Dawkins and Harris (I liked Hitchens more). I want more in-your-face-atheism because in-your-face-religiousity is so prevalent in North America. I want an end to White House/Congressional Prayer Breakfasts and politicians who cite their 'devotion to gawd' as part of their pitch.

FFS, the driving force behind the anti-abortion crowd is the religious fundamentalists and the Roman Catholic church. Same for the anti-gay-rights movement (though Pope Frank backed off that just a couple of weeks ago.)
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I really liked Dawkins. I took a casual interest in his feud with Gould. After Gould died is when Dick holstered up his holy war guns. I watched him speak to a Christian College audience when he was pimping The God Delusion. He was Brilliant. Then I read the book and I was less impressed.

Then I think his mind started slipping. He started just barking belligerently, especially at the Muslims.
Aresen wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 17:03 I want more in-your-face-atheism because in-your-face-religiousity is so prevalent in North America. I want an end to White House/Congressional Prayer Breakfasts and politicians who cite their 'devotion to gawd' as part of their pitch.
ditto
Eric the .5b wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 14:54 Both are more ideologically atheist and anti-religious than focused on skepticism.
I'm not sure my knife is sharp enough to cleave those two apart.
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Aresen wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 17:03I like both Dawkins and Harris (I liked Hitchens more). I want more in-your-face-atheism because in-your-face-religiousity is so prevalent in North America. I want an end to White House/Congressional Prayer Breakfasts and politicians who cite their 'devotion to gawd' as part of their pitch.
I want less in-your-face anything. Dawkins is a prat Old Scientist and a wannabe crusader. Again, he's a fuck who lives in the UK and whines about how the religious are allowed to exist and so oppress people like him. (When he's not showing an almost Trumpian lack of empathy by mocking clerical sexual abuse victims or the like.) Also, he made me understand the atheist case for having an official religion, given he was taught in schools by priests and yet has a remarkably dim and simplistic understanding of Christianity and religion in general.

Harris is just...kinda dull.

And the driving force behind the anti-abortion movement is Team Red, because they picked an issue to focus on and use for branding in the 70s by whipping up the people who disliked abortion but weren't really very concerned about it, much less the raving fanatics they became in a generation. Otherwise, it'd barely be a thing in the US.
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Sean Connery. I'm sure he'll be drunk and beating women in a better place.
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nicole wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 08:37Sean Connery
90 is a good age. I thought he was younger.

I could not see "Dr. No" when it first came out because I wasn't 16.
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Aresen wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 17:32
nicole wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 08:37Sean Connery
90 is a good age. I thought he was younger.

I could not see "Dr. No" when it first came out because I wasn't 16.
That must have been a Canadian thing. The U.S. MPAA wasn't begun until 1968.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 17:54
Aresen wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 17:32
nicole wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 08:37Sean Connery
90 is a good age. I thought he was younger.

I could not see "Dr. No" when it first came out because I wasn't 16.
That must have been a Canadian thing. The U.S. MPAA wasn't begun until 1968.
It was. Alberta had a censorship board at that time that classified films. Dr. No was 'Adults Only'. Tom Jones was banned.

Alberta adopted the MPAA from the US version.
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I'll always remember Connery in the Highlander. In a movie about a Scotsman, they naturally cast Connery as a Spaniard.

A Spaniard named, apparently, "Ramierezh."
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Jake wrote: 02 Nov 2020, 17:50 I'll always remember Connery in the Highlander. In a movie about a Scotsman, they naturally cast Connery as a Spaniard.

A Spaniard named, apparently, "Ramierezh."
Everyone knows this was Connery's greatest role:

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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 02 Nov 2020, 17:56 Everyone knows this was Connery's greatest role:
Yes. Everybody knows this. So there's no reason to ever mention it.
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Jake wrote: 02 Nov 2020, 17:50 I'll always remember Connery in the Highlander. In a movie about a Scotsman, they naturally cast Connery as a Spaniard.
Yes! The two roles I always remember him in are the Scottish Spaniard and the Scottish Russian submarine captain.
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Jake wrote: 02 Nov 2020, 17:50 I'll always remember Connery in the Highlander. In a movie about a Scotsman, they naturally cast Connery as a Spaniard.

A Spaniard named, apparently, "Ramierezh."
Actually, originally an Egyptian, only more recently of Spain.
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I already had a shit morning at work (one of those irresolvable situations where I fucked something up and everyone is mad at me but I think it's really their fault because I did my best and they didn't double-check my work so the fuckup went live) and now this? FUCKING FUCK.
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Guys. They did a whipple procedure on him some time ago. That procedure only buys you time. And he was still filming episodes this year. That guy was an absolute badass. He had a damn good run.
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nicole wrote: 08 Nov 2020, 12:58Alex Trebek
That's two for Jake.
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