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Recently watched Computer Chess, a 2013 movie that, honestly, I'd have a hard time recommending unless you just like oddball stuff for oddball's sake (which, I do), or enjoy antique computer porn (which I also do). Thought its premise had more potential than what was there. However, I will say I really enjoyed the aesthetic, in the way it combined old black&white tube video of odd people with an ethereal hippy lady soundtrack to create kind of an otherworldly atmosphere. The woman is Collie Ryan, and this song has been haunting me for days: It's Gonna Rain
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Had to image search that one...

Dang that guy's been on everything. Normally I might tease someone who is Babs' choice of bass player, but hey dude's got some hip cred:
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A slightly unconventional record, its satirical take on musical theater and cartoon television proves that there are plenty of opportunities for session players to diversify their musical portfolio. Stubenhaus’ experience and maturity as a player, as well as his resume with other Broadway-style artists, makes him the perfect call for a record that requires subtly and precision. He provides the perfect backdrop for the lyrics and dialogue of this track thanks to his intentional note choices and dramatic dynamic shifts.
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Freestyle Music Park (previously known as Hard Rock Park), was a short-lived music themed amusement park built on 55 acres (22 ha) of a 140-acre (57 ha) property[1] located in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The park was located at the intersection of US 501 and the Intracoastal Waterway. It included part of the former Waccamaw Factory Shoppes in Fantasy Harbour, and used Mall 3 as its headquarters.[2]

The park originally opened on April 15, 2008, but closed on September 24, 2008, due to financial issues. It reopened on May 23, 2009, under the Freestyle brand,[3][4][5] and closed again after the 2009 season due to financial issues and lawsuits that were filed against the park.[6]
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So my wife gets up this morning, comes in the living room and says

-guess what this song is: "aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa"

I'm like, uh, what?

-This song, "aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa, aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAGH, aaaa aah"

Despite her helpful wailings I'm eventually stumped so she puts on a video of... Waiting Man. Woot! It's her favorite song now. Something like a month ago I somehow got her to watch this fantastic 1982 King Crimson performance and afterwards she looks me straight in the eye and says, "this has changed my life". Now she's singing their songs in the morning.

I turned my wife on to King Crimson late in middle age, I feel like the luckiest man evar, and have probably increased by a significant percentage King Crimson's female fan base.
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God damn that's a good performance.

I kinda hope Crimso does come back and do one more* tour after the virus abates, because damn they melt them some paint.

* or more than one but I'm not greedy.
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I've seen this video going around for a bit and what I love (besides that they both seem like nice young people who would be welcome on my lawn) is how everyone who is familiar with the song is just WAITING for THAT ONE MOMENT and their reaction does not disappoint.
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Oh the humanity.
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I know, right? It's a national tragedy that this song is known at all among a generation that wasn't born yet when it came out. C'mon people, be responsible, the youngins are listening. Help them grow up in a world with less Phil Collins.
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dead_elvis wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 22:21 I know, right? It's a national tragedy that this song is known at all among a generation that wasn't born yet when it came out. C'mon people, be responsible, the youngins are listening. Help them grow up in a world with less Phil Collins.
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Oh of course, I assumed standard disclaimers for some Phil Collins' Genesis work, even if the exact date varies by person (personally I'm ok with anything up through Abacab).

I was listening to a bit of Foxtrot the other week and wondering if you have to be English to get it.
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dead_elvis wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 23:01 Oh of course, I assumed standard disclaimers for some Phil Collins' Genesis work, even if the exact date varies by person (personally I'm ok with anything up through Abacab).

I was listening to a bit of Foxtrot the other week and wondering if you have to be English to get it.
Yeah, Abacab is a good cutoff. I enjoy some songs after that, but not whole albums.
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I don't dislike Collins' music. The songs he's best known for are way overproduced, typical for that era, but I don't grimace if one pops up on the radio.

Oh yeah, and I haven't watched the video and probably won't.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 10 Aug 2020, 23:52 I don't dislike Collins' music. The songs he's best known for are way overproduced, typical for that era, but I don't grimace if one pops up on the radio.

Oh yeah, and I haven't watched the video and probably won't.
It's mildly cute. From a channel by a couple of kids who had their hearing surgically restored after being congenitally deaf, where they record themselves listening to various bits of music for the first time. Not earth shattering but less horrifying than a Sarah Cooper tiktok.
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For me Abacab was the turning point where Phil announced he'd rather rich and write crap what got played on the radio than be a serious musician.
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Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 09:17 For me Abacab was the turning point where Phil announced he'd rather rich and write crap what got played on the radio than be a serious musician.
Tony Banks said with a straight face that it was their response to punk.

That said I like it. Especially "Dodo/Lurker".
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lunchstealer wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:02
Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 09:17 For me Abacab was the turning point where Phil announced he'd rather rich and write crap what got played on the radio than be a serious musician.
Tony Banks said with a straight face that it was their response to punk.
Ha ha ha Well, there you go.
That said I like it. Especially "Dodo/Lurker".
Yeah, my problem is that even when Phil tries, it sounds like a semi-competent Peter Gabriel impersonation.

That's really cemented in my head, the compare/contrast between Collins and Gabriel and why one is great and the other is garbage.
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Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:54
lunchstealer wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:02
Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 09:17 For me Abacab was the turning point where Phil announced he'd rather rich and write crap what got played on the radio than be a serious musician.
Tony Banks said with a straight face that it was their response to punk.
Ha ha ha Well, there you go.
That said I like it. Especially "Dodo/Lurker".
Yeah, my problem is that even when Phil tries, it sounds like a semi-competent Peter Gabriel impersonation.

That's really cemented in my head, the compare/contrast between Collins and Gabriel and why one is great and the other is garbage.
I'm kinda that way, but really only 4 of 6 Gabriel albums are that good. Trespass has maybe two good songs. Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot are mostly good but have some crash/burn, too. (I'm looking at you, "Fountain of Salmacis"). But Collins-era never did anything close to "In the Cage" or "The Musical Box" or "Cinema Show"
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lunchstealer wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 12:33
Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:54
lunchstealer wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:02
Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 09:17 For me Abacab was the turning point where Phil announced he'd rather rich and write crap what got played on the radio than be a serious musician.
Tony Banks said with a straight face that it was their response to punk.
Ha ha ha Well, there you go.
That said I like it. Especially "Dodo/Lurker".
Yeah, my problem is that even when Phil tries, it sounds like a semi-competent Peter Gabriel impersonation.

That's really cemented in my head, the compare/contrast between Collins and Gabriel and why one is great and the other is garbage.
I'm kinda that way, but really only 4 of 6 Gabriel albums are that good. Trespass has maybe two good songs. Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot are mostly good but have some crash/burn, too. (I'm looking at you, "Fountain of Salmacis"). But Collins-era never did anything close to "In the Cage" or "The Musical Box" or "Cinema Show"
I like "A Trick of the Tail" a lot. Part of my contempt for Phil is that I think he was a damned fine drummer. But you can't be a front man from behind the kit. And I hold him responsible for driving Genesis from prog rock to pop.

Much of my Gabriel/Collins = good guy/bad guy beliefs was formed from their 80's stuff.
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Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 12:50
lunchstealer wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 12:33
Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:54
lunchstealer wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 11:02
Warren wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 09:17 For me Abacab was the turning point where Phil announced he'd rather rich and write crap what got played on the radio than be a serious musician.
Tony Banks said with a straight face that it was their response to punk.
Ha ha ha Well, there you go.
That said I like it. Especially "Dodo/Lurker".
Yeah, my problem is that even when Phil tries, it sounds like a semi-competent Peter Gabriel impersonation.

That's really cemented in my head, the compare/contrast between Collins and Gabriel and why one is great and the other is garbage.
I'm kinda that way, but really only 4 of 6 Gabriel albums are that good. Trespass has maybe two good songs. Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot are mostly good but have some crash/burn, too. (I'm looking at you, "Fountain of Salmacis"). But Collins-era never did anything close to "In the Cage" or "The Musical Box" or "Cinema Show"
I like "A Trick of the Tail" a lot. Part of my contempt for Phil is that I think he was a damned fine drummer. But you can't be a front man from behind the kit. And I hold him responsible for driving Genesis from prog rock to pop.

Much of my Gabriel/Collins = good guy/bad guy beliefs was formed from their 80's stuff.
post-Abacab Genesis to me is like Trevor Rabin era Yes or Jefferson Airplane to Starship. Different animal. It's fun proggy pop that I don't mind hearing sometimes but I didn't buy any. I bought the Yes, but almost never listen to it anymore. Doesn't help that my MP3s of 90125 are terrible and I never managed to replace Big Generator and maybe not Union after the Great Breakin CD Heist, but still probably wouldn't much.
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Clarification: I never listen to Jefferson Starship or Starship. Just Rabin-era Yes. Sometimes.
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I'm on the side that prefers the more radio-friendly eras of those bands. For me, Phil Collins-Frontman-of-Genesis is the best Phil Collins, as opposed to his solo work or when he was just the drummer. I even prefer Peter Gabriel solo more than Peter Gabriel in Genesis. And same thing with Yes, although I do kind of wish that Trevor Horn and Trevor Rabin had started another band rather than shoehorning themselves into a breaking-up Yes. Trevor Rabin had that whole album (90125) of great material, and I also kind of like Big Generator's idea's, but it just didn't take off.
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