Orange is the new President

[Pham Nuwen]

COVID does a number on numerous tissues in the body, and a certain fraction of people wind up getting inflammation in their eyes from it. The current state of knowledge is that it's a luck of the draw thing, but no doubt we'll eventually learn of factors that predispose some people to get inflammation in different tissues than others.

There are actually some doctors theorizing that Covid-19 is a vascular disease rather than a respiratory one, partially because of that variance.

That's how we treat it at my hospital. It's why I got orignially loaned to the heart team back in June. Lot of suspect strokes and heart attacks. A lot. And lot of viral load in the heart itself. Ace receptors all along the arterial system.

[Ellie]

Obviously I too hope Pence has Covid but isn't the simplest explanation that someone farted on his pillow?

[dhex]

Errant cumshot.

Very unlikely to be true.

But let us all believe together.

And make it true.

In our hearts.

Fuck the cabronivirus.

[Eric the .5b]

Errant cumshot.

Very unlikely to be true.

But let us all believe together.

And make it true.

In our hearts.

Fuck the cabronivirus.

Burma Shave.

[Warren]

Errant cumshot.

Very unlikely to be true.

But let us all believe together.

And make it true.

In our hearts.

Fuck the cabronivirus.

Burma Shave.

I lol'd

[thoreau]

He's apparently going to do a balcony speech today, because he wants a Mussolini LARP.

Here's hoping that everyone in the crowd comes down with covid-19 and qualifies to vote in Chicago.

[thoreau]

Nothing we don't already know on some level, but this article lays out how anyone who wants influence with Trump spends money at his businesses.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... swamp.html

[Aresen]

Nothing we don't already know on some level, but this article lays out how anyone who wants influence with Trump spends money at his businesses.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... swamp.html

Trumper response:
1) Librul lies.
2) That's how things get done.
3) Just shows how smart he is.
4) OBAMA!

[dead_elvis]

More completely normal presidential spin.

Trump endorses U.S. Marshals' summary execution of suspect

We sent in the US Marshals, took 15 minutes and it was over… They knew who he was, they didn't want to arrest him and 15 minutes that ended

To restore law and order you have to destroy it, natch.

This guy was a violent criminal, and the U.S. Marshals killed him. And I will tell you something, that’s the way it has to be. There has to be retribution when you have crime like this,” Trump said.

Trump’s comments seemed to line-up with Attorney General William Barr’s official statement following the killing of Reinoehl, calling the officers’ actions “a significant accomplishment in the ongoing effort to restore law and order.”

[Jennifer]

More completely normal presidential spin.

Fear not; I've been reassured by many very wise people that what Trump says is not important; only what he does. And he didn't actually do anything here; he only said stuff.

[Aresen]

More completely normal presidential spin.

Trump endorses U.S. Marshals' summary execution of suspect

We sent in the US Marshals, took 15 minutes and it was over… They knew who he was, they didn't want to arrest him and 15 minutes that ended

Jesus H. Murphy Fucking Christ. Every time I think Trump can't get worse, he proves me wrong.

[JD]

So Trump said that if Biden were elected, he would listen to scientists, like that was a bad thing.

He's rightly coming in for a lot of mockery, but I can't help but think this is informed by a lot of leftists' belief, not in science, but in scientism, where any argument is settled by using the (pardon the phrase) trump card of "SCIENCE!" They use science, as the saying goes, like a drunkard uses a lamp-post: for support, not illumination.

[thoreau]

You have a valid point, but do you really think Trump understands the difference between science and scientism?

[JD]

You have a valid point, but do you really think Trump understands the difference between science and scientism?

I don't think the guy understands much of anything, believe me!

[D.A. Ridgely]

Between science and sciencism lies sciencyness, which is actually what most of us believe in.

[Aresen]

I am totally baffled why anyone would think "Biden will listen to the scientists" is an insult.

[thoreau]

I am totally baffled why anyone would think "Biden will listen to the scientists" is an insult.

At this point, Team Red is the villain clique from an 80's teen movie. Biden would listen to the nerds. NERDS!!!!

EDIT: Yes, there are some is/ought issues here, not to mention tradeoffs, economics, etc. But the Reds aren't approaching this at that level of sophistication. They're approaching it at the level of "Biden will listen to the people who think the world is billions of years old."

[Jadagul]

Yeah, "follow the science" is actually kind of a dumb slogan; science strictly speaking doesn't produce action recommendations.

But "listen to scientists" is an obviously smart thing to do in a pandemic. And somehow the Trump campaign has lost sight of that.

(See also complaining about how Biden would listen to Fauci specifically, since he's more trusted than either of them.)

[thoreau]

Trump's twitter password was, until very recently, maga2020.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achter ... %2Ft.co%2F

[Hugh Akston]

How in Galt's name does Trump think that he is going to be helped by releasing video of him walking out of an interview like a petulant toddler ?

[Number 6]

How in Galt's name does Trump think that he is going to be helped by releasing video of him walking out of an interview like a petulant toddler ?

Because he’s pwning the libs and the media at the same time, and punishing them for having the temerity to challenge the Greatest President Ever. His people will love it.

[D.A. Ridgely]

How in Galt's name does Trump think that he is going to be helped by releasing video of him walking out of an interview like a petulant toddler ?

The petulant toddler vote is essential for Trump's reelection.

[thoreau]

Because he’s pwning the libs and the media at the same time, and punishing them for having the temerity to challenge the Greatest President Ever. His people will love it.

Damn straight. You can't trust the media; they just want to undermine American Freedom. If you want a free country then you'd better get in line behind the Leader.

[Highway]

Because he’s pwning the libs and the media at the same time, and punishing them for having the temerity to challenge the Greatest President Ever. His people will love it.

Damn straight. You can't trust the media; they just want to undermine American Freedom. If you want a free country then you'd better get in line behind the Leader.

Taktix posted a video on FB about that, with a bunch of apparently Q-believing people saying "You can't trust the media" and on and on. And I was just thinking "and who are you trusting to give you information? Are you investigating their reasoning as well?" I mean, we know the answer is 'no', it's just "I'm not important enough, so I'm going to join in with this 'secret' truth that makes me feel like I'm one of the important people."

[Ellie]

I am sympathetic to the idea, at this point, that if you don't support Trump, and especially if you are in a group that feels like it will be harmed by him (e.g. someone with a pre-existing condition who is afraid of Obamacare getting done away with), that you would look at a loved one who supports Trump and say, "this isn't just a 'both sides have their merits' issue anymore, if you continue to support him there's something genuinely malicious about you, that makes me not want to have a relationship with you."

I get the impulse to feel that way. But it seems like a lot of people I know are suddenly acting on it in ways that I don't think are going to end well. I know three different people who have told parents or in laws that they won't get to see their grandkids anymore if the grandparents vote for trump. I know one woman, who admittedly has already been talking divorce with her husband, who explicitly told him if he didn't vote Biden she would leave him. And I have trans friend who wrote to his parents and said "if you support Trump you don't support me."

Is any of this really going to do any good? (In the case of my poor trans friend, his parents wrote back and said essentially, "we can clear that up, we don't support you.") If anything it's just going to feed into the "liberal cancel culture, persecuted conservatives" narrative that so many Trumpers have. I understand deciding to end a relationship because you're so bothered by someone's support of Trump, but only as a personal choice. Not trying to threaten THEM into changing THEIR behavior over it.